1 00:00:04,150 --> 00:00:02,470 and welcome to the space telescope 2 00:00:07,110 --> 00:00:04,160 public lecture series 3 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:07,120 tonight we have a very special event for 4 00:00:10,629 --> 00:00:07,919 you 5 00:00:11,669 --> 00:00:10,639 finding music of the spheres hearing 6 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,679 stars 7 00:00:14,709 --> 00:00:13,440 by the consonants collective and the 8 00:00:16,710 --> 00:00:14,719 bergamot quartet 9 00:00:20,550 --> 00:00:16,720 of the peabody institute of the johns 10 00:00:25,269 --> 00:00:22,550 i'm your host dr frank summers of the 11 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:25,279 space telescope science institute 12 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:27,920 and i have to thank my amazing tech team 13 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:29,039 who not only 14 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:31,199 records this webcast but gets it out to 15 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:32,800 you live on youtube 16 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:36,000 thomas marufu and grant justice 17 00:00:41,190 --> 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me on facebook or twitter 82 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:14,390 our news from the universe is not 83 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:15,760 appearing this month 84 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:19,519 uh it will return in june why 85 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,800 well because we have a large number of 86 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:24,560 speakers tonight and i want to give 87 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,840 all the time to them we have five 88 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,840 count em five composers from the 89 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:31,519 consonants collective 90 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,720 and we have the four folks the the 91 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,680 artists in the bergamot quartet and they 92 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:40,000 will be speaking to you tonight 93 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:42,159 i also want to let you know that the 94 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:43,680 videos the full 95 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:46,560 complete compositions and the videos 96 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:47,840 that go with them 97 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:51,120 are available on youtube in the hearing 98 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,319 stars playlist 99 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:54,959 there are five videos and the entire 100 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:57,760 playlist lasts over 65 minutes 101 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:00,799 however i want to point out that if 102 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:02,720 you're watching this on youtube you're 103 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:04,239 watching it on the hubble space 104 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:06,560 telescope youtube channel 105 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:08,239 these videos were not posted on the 106 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:10,400 hubble space telescope youtube channel 107 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:12,799 instead as you can see in the lower left 108 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:14,640 they were posted on the space 109 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:17,199 telescope science institute youtube 110 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,079 channel 111 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:20,160 so you come to the hubble space 112 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:21,359 telescope 113 00:04:24,710 --> 00:04:23,199 youtube channel for the lecture and you 114 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:24,720 go to the space telescope 115 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:28,240 youtube channel for the videos 116 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:31,680 alright so it is my wonderful pleasure 117 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:32,080 to 118 00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:35,440 introduce just one of the uh 119 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:38,720 speakers tonight bobby gee was 120 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:41,759 raised in shanghai but he came to the us 121 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:44,400 and did a double major in physics and 122 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:45,759 music at uc 123 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:49,440 berkeley then he did a masters in 124 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:50,560 composing 125 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,280 at the peabody conservatory he is 126 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:55,199 currently working on new pieces for the 127 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:56,720 albany symphony 128 00:05:00,469 --> 00:05:00,080 uh music and a working with a new music 129 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:00,479 group 130 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:04,320 called mind on fire he will introduce 131 00:05:08,629 --> 00:05:06,160 uh actually he will start off the 132 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:08,639 introductions of all the members of this 133 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:09,520 amazing 134 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:12,080 uh performing folks here tonight so 135 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:13,280 ladies and gentlemen 136 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:21,510 all right thank you so much frank for 137 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,240 that uh very generous introduction um 138 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:26,160 yeah we're all super super glad to be 139 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:27,600 here and we're all really excited just 140 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:28,240 to 141 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:33,280 a spot in their public lecture series 142 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:35,199 it's not super common having musicians 143 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:36,479 come on here so we're really really glad 144 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:38,000 that we got to be here 145 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:40,400 um yeah so just to begin by introducing 146 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:41,600 everybody else 147 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:44,240 um so i will start out by introducing 148 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:46,240 constance and who we are 149 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:48,560 um so constance is a collective of 150 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:49,520 composers 151 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:51,840 we all met as graduate students in 152 00:05:55,909 --> 00:05:54,080 composition at the peabody conservatory 153 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:55,919 and our whole thing is wanting to bring 154 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:57,520 contemporary classical music to 155 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:58,240 audiences 156 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:00,880 through multimedia collaborations like 157 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:01,680 this 158 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:04,080 and themed concerts unconventional 159 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,319 concert venues that kind of thing 160 00:06:10,629 --> 00:06:08,160 so just to introduce everybody obviously 161 00:06:11,909 --> 00:06:10,639 there's myself um there's zach gulabov 162 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:11,919 davis 163 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,880 there is dan despins there's gouay and 164 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,800 there is sayuna kim 165 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:19,120 yeah if you want to find out more about 166 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:20,639 us you can check out our website which 167 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:23,360 is up here www.cnsnc.org 168 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:24,720 you can also follow us on facebook and 169 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:27,199 instagram um next i will i will leave it 170 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:29,600 to the bergamot quartets to introduce 171 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:31,600 their members i'll pass it off to 172 00:06:40,629 --> 00:06:35,680 cellist irene hahn let me go ahead and 173 00:06:48,150 --> 00:06:44,070 hi um i'm irene i am the cellist in 174 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:48,160 bergamot quartet um 175 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:52,080 sorry um and i think 176 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:54,160 everyone would like to introduce 177 00:06:58,550 --> 00:06:56,479 themselves individually first before i 178 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,560 um talk a little bit more about who we 179 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:00,319 are 180 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:02,400 so yeah hi i'm amy 10 and i play the 181 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,280 viola in the bergamot quartet 182 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:06,960 hello everyone i'm sarah thomas and i'm 183 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:08,400 one of the violinists in the bergamot 184 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,830 hi i'm lita think and i'm also a 185 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:16,560 violinist 186 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:19,280 so we are a string quartet based in new 187 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,240 york city we 188 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:22,319 are the graduate quartet at the manu 189 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:23,599 school of music right now 190 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:26,639 we met at peabody in 191 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,000 2016 and we've been performing together 192 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:33,120 ever since we um specialize in 193 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:35,520 performing music by living composers 194 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,440 um and that's how through peabody 195 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:41,599 that's how we got to get to know the 196 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,080 composers of this album um 197 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:47,199 and we're really excited to do that um 198 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:48,879 i'm going to hand it over to bobby to 199 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:50,879 continue our presentation for this 200 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:56,629 great thanks a bunch irene and uh thanks 201 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,319 to the content for being here 202 00:08:01,909 --> 00:08:00,240 um yeah so just to explain a little bit 203 00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:01,919 more about hearing stars and how this 204 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:03,919 whole project came together 205 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:07,280 um so this was last year this was in the 206 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:08,400 before times before 207 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:11,120 covet and everything um so the members 208 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:12,720 of consonants and bergamot were getting 209 00:08:15,029 --> 00:08:13,840 together and just sort of talking 210 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:15,039 because we knew that we wanted to try 211 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:16,720 and do some kind of a project or some 212 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:18,160 kind of a concert together 213 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,680 our original idea was that we were 214 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:21,199 thinking about working with something in 215 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:22,240 the visual medium 216 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:24,160 so you know film scores that kind of 217 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:26,240 thing and the more we talked the more 218 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:28,319 the project ended up shifting until we 219 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:30,960 until we came out we decided to uh focus 220 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:31,599 on 221 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:35,680 is public domain because 222 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,599 for at least available for fair use 223 00:08:40,310 --> 00:08:39,440 because yay hubble space telescope yeah 224 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,320 science 225 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,880 um and from there as we begin to explore 226 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:44,560 more we learned that the space telescope 227 00:08:47,670 --> 00:08:46,240 science institute or sdsci 228 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,680 folks who manage all those photos and 229 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:49,200 everything are actually based in our 230 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:50,800 backyard here in baltimore 231 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:52,640 and so from there we ended up chatting 232 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:54,080 more and eventually the entire 233 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:56,720 project has sort of evolved into this 234 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:57,600 hour-long 235 00:09:01,430 --> 00:09:00,240 visual album depicting the life stages 236 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:01,440 of stars 237 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:02,480 so that's what we're going to end up 238 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:05,440 talking about today every single 239 00:09:09,430 --> 00:09:07,920 composer composed a different piece or 240 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:09,440 based on a different 241 00:09:13,829 --> 00:09:11,920 stellar life stage so we'll start out 242 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,839 with the birth of stars we'll go on to 243 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,839 star systems we'll go on to 244 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:17,920 supernovae and like the death of stars 245 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:20,000 and then black holes and finally 246 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:21,920 dark matter just to close us out and 247 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:23,680 then after we're done with each 248 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,680 after each composer is done presenting 249 00:09:28,630 --> 00:09:27,360 their piece we'll turn it over back to 250 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:28,640 the quartet for them 251 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:30,080 just to explain a little bit more about 252 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:32,240 what it was like to put together our 253 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:34,560 pieces because all the pieces have 254 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:36,480 a variety of techniques that exist 255 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:38,640 outside sort of standard classical 256 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:41,200 you know procedure and style and part of 257 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:43,120 the great fun with working with them was 258 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:44,399 watching them sort of 259 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:46,000 wrestle through our notation and our new 260 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:47,920 ideas and you know try and bring them to 261 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:50,160 life as effectively as possible 262 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,920 yeah so if you like the videos or you 263 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:53,760 like what you see here once again check 264 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:55,360 out the full playlist on youtube 265 00:09:59,430 --> 00:09:57,920 um and if you like the music a whole lot 266 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:59,440 this whole album is available 267 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:00,800 just you know anywhere you listen to 268 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:04,160 music spotify youtube apple music if 269 00:10:08,790 --> 00:10:07,200 anyone uses that um yeah cool so with 270 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:08,800 that i'm gonna go ahead and jump right 271 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:09,920 in by explaining 272 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,519 uh my particular topic so 273 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:15,360 here we go so my piece is called celeste 274 00:10:19,990 --> 00:10:17,360 forma and is based on 275 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:20,000 um protostars this idea of forming star 276 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:21,360 formation and how they go 277 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:24,480 from you know being goblets of dust and 278 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:26,480 gas and eventually becoming the raging 279 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:28,320 you know thermonuclear explosions and 280 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:30,079 all that that that light up our night 281 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:31,680 sky 282 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:34,240 so the overall structure of this piece 283 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:34,720 um 284 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:37,279 is in broadly speaking is in three 285 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:38,160 chapters 286 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:40,000 so i'll go and i'll talk more about each 287 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:41,040 one i'm just going to go ahead and do a 288 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:41,440 quick 289 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:43,120 overview here so the first one we start 290 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:44,880 out with nebulae 291 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:46,720 and then it goes on to the rapid 292 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:48,079 expansion of 293 00:10:52,230 --> 00:10:50,320 protostars basically once protostars and 294 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:52,240 these dense cores actually form how they 295 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:53,360 begin to grow 296 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:55,839 and they uh yeah very rapidly um and 297 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:57,600 then finally the last chapter of the 298 00:11:01,269 --> 00:10:58,320 piece 299 00:11:03,829 --> 00:11:01,279 is sort of based around um main sequence 300 00:11:04,949 --> 00:11:03,839 stars so once protostars have stabilized 301 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:04,959 and they're no longer 302 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:07,440 you know um proto so to speak they're no 303 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:08,800 longer exploding all over the place and 304 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:10,240 trying to figure themselves out so to 305 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:10,880 speak 306 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:13,600 which is like a person in the 20s um the 307 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:15,120 week when it goes on did they go on to 308 00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:16,880 become main sequence stars which is what 309 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:17,279 the 310 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:28,560 thought of nebulae 311 00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:31,680 um was that um 312 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:33,839 there's sort of these big chaotic swirls 313 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,240 of dust and gas right like 314 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:38,800 um they have it's kind of impossible to 315 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:40,480 predict with the exact you know pinpoint 316 00:11:43,430 --> 00:11:41,120 precision 317 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:43,440 or this exact part of the nebula the 318 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:45,200 nebula is going to like become 319 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:46,480 is going to have is it going to grow 320 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:48,079 proto stars first and then this exact 321 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:49,519 and then this exact bit's going to go 322 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:51,200 for it's going to happen first and this 323 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:52,399 person will happen here first and that 324 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,760 person will happen there next 325 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:55,519 um that kind of pinpoint precision is 326 00:11:59,430 --> 00:11:56,959 not really possible for these kinds of 327 00:12:01,750 --> 00:11:59,440 massive super chaotic systems right 328 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,760 um and so instead what we do know though 329 00:12:05,829 --> 00:12:03,920 is the overall behavior of these kinds 330 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:05,839 of big chaotic systems 331 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:08,639 um so basically so we know the rules 332 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:10,639 that govern these nebulae but we don't 333 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:11,519 actually know 334 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:12,720 we can't necessarily this is not 335 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:14,720 actually even useful to explain with 336 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:16,320 exact pinpoint precision 337 00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:18,480 you know which bit how exactly the 338 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:20,079 system is going to evolve 339 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:21,600 um and so the way that i wanted to 340 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,760 translate that was with this is 341 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:25,440 this little musical thing called box 342 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:28,160 notation and so what box notation 343 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:30,880 is is where the musician basically i 344 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:32,800 write these little boxes of music so 345 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:34,160 there's a couple of notes inside and 346 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,120 some techniques 347 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,959 for the musicians and they are not 348 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:38,800 trying to coordinate with each other 349 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:39,600 with exact 350 00:12:42,870 --> 00:12:42,320 precision right basically they're all 351 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:42,880 playing 352 00:12:46,629 --> 00:12:44,480 these little they're repeating these the 353 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,639 notes in these boxes in their own times 354 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:48,320 within their own rhythm 355 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:50,639 and so basically what you get is you get 356 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:52,000 this kind of unpredictable 357 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:54,240 texture where you broadly speaking you 358 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:55,600 know what it's going to sound like 359 00:12:57,750 --> 00:12:56,160 because 360 00:12:59,990 --> 00:12:57,760 the to the nodes the techniques are all 361 00:13:02,230 --> 00:13:00,000 written in the boxes but you don't know 362 00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:02,240 what the piece is going to sound 363 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:03,519 different every time they play it right 364 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:04,240 because 365 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:05,519 they're not trying to coordinate with 366 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:07,680 each other with pinpoint precision 367 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:09,920 um so that was sort of my way of trying 368 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:11,680 to you know 369 00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:14,720 imitate or simulate this notion of chaos 370 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:15,279 and 371 00:13:18,629 --> 00:13:17,680 um chaotic systems as a whole so i'm 372 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:18,639 going to go ahead and play a quick 373 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:20,160 excerpt of my piece 374 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:21,600 um so what you're going to hear is the 375 00:13:24,389 --> 00:13:23,600 two violins are playing these kind of 376 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:24,399 boxes 377 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:26,560 and the viola is going to play this like 378 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:28,399 beautiful melody that sort of 379 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:30,320 main theme of this piece over it so 380 00:14:14,829 --> 00:13:34,440 let's take a listen 381 00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:15,970 my 382 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:32,560 [Music] 383 00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:35,760 all right um yeah and then the second 384 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:37,839 part of the piece is rapid expansion so 385 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:38,399 basically 386 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:40,880 once some of the goblets of you know 387 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:42,320 dust and all that begin to 388 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,600 begin to pull towards one another 389 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:45,440 because of gravity some of them 390 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:47,199 come together faster than others and 391 00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:49,360 they um this sort of a snowball effect 392 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,240 right where 393 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:51,839 um the ones that come together first 394 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:53,600 tend to come together faster and faster 395 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,720 because they attain 396 00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:56,480 the greater and greater mass and pull in 397 00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:58,160 more material and all that 398 00:15:01,750 --> 00:14:59,920 and so you get these like really rapidly 399 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,760 spinning cores that get hotter and 400 00:15:03,829 --> 00:15:03,279 hotter and pull in more and more matter 401 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:03,839 and 402 00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:05,440 um you know sort of off to the races at 403 00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:06,800 that point they just kind of explode 404 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:07,839 into uh 405 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:09,360 to end with lots of energy and lots of 406 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:11,360 life um and so the way that i want to 407 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:12,240 try and imitate 408 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:14,959 this particular idea of you know 409 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:16,399 protostars that kind of 410 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,480 slowly accumulate matter and grow and 411 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:20,480 grow but are also very violent 412 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,440 um and you know explosive and all that 413 00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:26,160 was to have this sort of pulsing driving 414 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:28,639 cyclical kind of rhythm um you'll hear 415 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:30,320 this repeating three note pattern 416 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:32,160 um that sort of oscillates that sort of 417 00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:33,600 goes through the piece that gives it a 418 00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:35,199 kind of pulse of rhythm 419 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:36,880 um and the whole time it's sort of 420 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:38,560 gathering energy 421 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:40,959 it's also like slowly going upwards and 422 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:41,680 key 423 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:43,519 so you know you'll start out on a 424 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:45,040 certain key and then as it goes it just 425 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:46,639 keeps modulating or it keeps changing 426 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:48,240 keys higher and higher and higher sort 427 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:48,639 of 428 00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:50,160 you know ratcheting up the tension and 429 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:51,680 everything and then while all that's 430 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,440 going on you also have the 431 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:55,600 other strings sort of giving these 432 00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:57,600 really intense crescendos and that kind 433 00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:58,399 of thing 434 00:16:03,420 --> 00:15:59,759 um i'll just go ahead and play that 435 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:03,430 because your description only does so 436 00:16:06,839 --> 00:16:33,190 much 437 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,270 [Music] 438 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,600 great and then the final chapter of the 439 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,280 piece is once these you know 440 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,600 raging balls of fire the protostars 441 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:15,039 eventually stabilize 442 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,480 um they become these things called main 443 00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:18,880 sequence stars which is when they reach 444 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:21,039 equilibrium between their own gravity 445 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:23,120 and sort of the outward thermal pressure 446 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:23,839 of 447 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:24,720 you know because they're essentially 448 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:26,959 just like raging balls like hydro 449 00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,600 nuclear 450 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:29,280 explosions and fusion and all that stuff 451 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:30,640 right so um 452 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:33,280 that that out that pressure uh obviously 453 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,640 pushes outwards and gravity pulls 454 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:36,000 inwards and so at some point they 455 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:36,960 stabilize and reach 456 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,720 equilibrium and that's uh that's what 457 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:40,320 main sequence stars are 458 00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:41,520 so the way that i wanted to represent 459 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:44,080 this musically was to sort of stabilize 460 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,799 into a 461 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,240 key that i thought was just you know 462 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:48,080 it's sort of the purest amount of people 463 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,919 called like the most primal key of c 464 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,120 major which is 465 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,280 um you know just like all the white 466 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,039 notes on a piano right and so it's 467 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:57,520 very simple very transparent kind of 468 00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:58,400 sound 469 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,160 um that i wanted to sort of you know 470 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:02,080 arrive at after all the violence and all 471 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:02,720 that of the 472 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:06,240 of the peace beforehand so um yeah just 473 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:06,799 to 474 00:18:17,540 --> 00:18:54,830 [Music] 475 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:15,190 bye 476 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:17,029 yeah so that is an overview of my piece 477 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:18,400 uh before i hand it off 478 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:21,600 um i wanted to briefly just to thank um 479 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:25,120 dr massimo roberto of the st of sdsci 480 00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:26,880 astronomer who i got to meet with over 481 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,480 the course of writing this piece 482 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,600 and who was really helpful in just 483 00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:31,120 shaping the direction and everything of 484 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,039 how i thought about stars and 485 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,919 how i thought about the music yeah so up 486 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,360 next i want to hand it off to my 487 00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:39,440 esteemed colleague and fellow composers 488 00:20:02,789 --> 00:19:41,840 that gulab davis will be talking 489 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:10,310 zach can you unmute 490 00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:13,029 there we go sorry about that should be 491 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:14,159 working now 492 00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,919 all right yeah i'm zach cooliboff davis 493 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,919 one of the five composers of the 494 00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:18,960 consonants collective 495 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,240 real happy to be here i'll be speaking 496 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:24,080 briefly about my string quartet 497 00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:30,230 so just to begin a little bit about the 498 00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:32,480 overall inspiration and whatnot 499 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:35,600 in contrast to um some of my colleagues 500 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,159 works 501 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:39,280 my quartet um takes a somewhat more 502 00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:42,080 abstract um look at the cosmos a bit of 503 00:21:12,870 --> 00:20:42,559 a 504 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,880 my work 505 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:14,720 because i often play with uh the 506 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:16,000 transparency of 507 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:19,919 my selected media media so for example 508 00:21:26,789 --> 00:21:23,440 i'll overlay like videos of the quartet 509 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:26,799 in tandem with imagery 510 00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:29,200 and simulate visualizations and stuff 511 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:30,159 like that 512 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:32,880 so kind of creating this ever-evolving 513 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:35,600 array of color 514 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,080 uh the work was composed pretty much in 515 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,760 tandem with my search for visual 516 00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:40,799 materials 517 00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:43,919 so my connection between the music and 518 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,799 media 519 00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,640 was more or less direct and 520 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,559 instantaneous during the compositional 521 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,440 process 522 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:52,240 as a composer that's super super fun 523 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,440 because 524 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:55,840 oftentimes it doesn't quite unfold so 525 00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,559 organically and being able to have 526 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:01,360 these absolutely amazing videos and 527 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:02,320 images 528 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:05,600 to you know serve as a sort of kernel of 529 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:07,600 inspiration i was i was as i was working 530 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:08,640 on this piece 531 00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,760 was just absolutely out of this world i 532 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,799 enjoyed it immensely uh iridescence my 533 00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:15,760 quartet 534 00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,039 is somewhat cyclical in nature um having 535 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:20,720 a lot of sort of connected material 536 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,919 overall 537 00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,000 starting in one place venturing off to 538 00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,720 sort of turbulent 539 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:29,039 middle section and then returning to 540 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,400 materials that are 541 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:33,039 somewhat reminiscent of the opening kind 542 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:34,559 of charting this path 543 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,760 from dark to light in the upper 544 00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:38,960 registers 545 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,159 of the instruments i strove to 546 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:45,440 capture the mystery and maybe austere 547 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,000 beauty 548 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,640 of star systems through sound and 549 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,720 resulting video 550 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:52,320 so i'm just going to briefly guide you 551 00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:53,600 through the work and sort of my 552 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,799 compositional process 553 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,880 how the piece unfolded again in tandem 554 00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:58,080 with 555 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:01,520 uh these amazing media elements 556 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,400 so here we go a little bit about the 557 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,000 opening here 558 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:08,000 um listen for subtle harmonies subtle 559 00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,360 gestures between 560 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:10,720 the four instruments just sort of 561 00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,559 passing around um 562 00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,039 very sort of muted in nature this form 563 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:17,919 is actually the basis of the entire work 564 00:24:06,789 --> 00:23:23,110 here we go 565 00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,190 so as i mentioned um this work is sort 566 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,799 of constructed in three distinct 567 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,640 sections so at some point 568 00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,400 i had to try to get to the next section 569 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,919 get to this more 570 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,760 turbulent and energetic section and in 571 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,840 order to do that um 572 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,840 the work sort of wanders and begins to 573 00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:23,520 um build towards 574 00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,880 um a climactic point so here listen as 575 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:29,279 the music just sort of drifts and 576 00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,799 eventually um 577 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:33,039 ends up in this fairly exciting 578 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,640 cacophony of sound which we'll hear in 579 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,400 the subsequent video 580 00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:38,880 but this is um sort of working towards 581 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,549 [Music] 582 00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,240 so yeah so these serene harmonies 583 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:31,919 gradually build up and build up and as 584 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:33,200 you can see i had so much 585 00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,200 fun mixing um the transparency with the 586 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:38,720 video of the quartet 587 00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,600 versus these absolutely amazing videos 588 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:43,520 and images and yes so this moves along 589 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,120 and eventually we reach 590 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,200 our first sort of true point of climax 591 00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,279 the um 592 00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,679 beginning of the middle section here we 593 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,279 go let me play a bit of this 594 00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:55,840 over here everything is faster paced so 595 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,320 um 596 00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,240 it's extremely turbulent honestly 597 00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,080 there's fiendishly difficult writing for 598 00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:02,080 all four members of the bergamot quartet 599 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,039 so they were taxed 600 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,679 to their extreme to play this and i also 601 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,360 worked on 602 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,159 interspersing much faster paced media 603 00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:12,000 here so lots of rapid changes between 604 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,720 clips 605 00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:14,960 just faster moving stuff in general i 606 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,350 [Music] 607 00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,360 so the intensity here never really dies 608 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,120 off it just keeps building and building 609 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:40,960 for a while until we finally reach 610 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,279 the sort of ultimate climax of the piece 611 00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:44,880 located 612 00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,279 more or less in the last third of the 613 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:48,399 work 614 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,840 this ensuing wall of sound continues for 615 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:52,799 a while and then 616 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,600 gradually begins to dissipate as we 617 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,279 transition into the final section 618 00:28:04,050 --> 00:27:59,760 but here's just a bit of this um 619 00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:14,830 [Music] 620 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:16,890 climax 621 00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:19,710 [Music] 622 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:22,740 [Applause] 623 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,880 [Music] 624 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,880 and last but not least as this section 625 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,760 dies away we finally return to the third 626 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:07,440 section when we get to the third section 627 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:07,760 a 628 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,200 time 629 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:17,360 in the absolute upper extremities of the 630 00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,320 instruments 631 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,840 we still see these little gestures 632 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,080 passing around between the instruments 633 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,760 this was probably my favorite part 634 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:25,760 because i used some 635 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,640 absolutely brilliantly colored images 636 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:30,080 and videos here 637 00:29:52,330 --> 00:29:41,210 just a tiny little tidbit of this 638 00:29:52,340 --> 00:30:03,430 [Music] 639 00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,269 and as you might guess from this excerpt 640 00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:06,480 the work kind of 641 00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,240 dies away in almost absolute silence 642 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:12,880 not long after this if you'd like to 643 00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,159 check out the full thing again you can 644 00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:15,919 find it on the stsci 645 00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,039 youtube channel a huge thank you to 646 00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,840 everyone involved with this especially 647 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,279 stsci for all their support 648 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,279 and i'd now like to hand off the 649 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,120 presentation to my esteemed colleague 650 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,520 suyna kim who will be talking about sn 651 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:30,559 1054 652 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:37,360 supernova thanks again 653 00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:57,669 hello my name is tayun sayuna kim and i 654 00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:05,029 when we started our project hearing 655 00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,480 stars i 656 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,279 chose this topic that's of a star just 657 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,960 because it sounded romantic 658 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:13,200 and i didn't have a concrete idea what 659 00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,279 to write about 660 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,080 and so i started my pre-compositional 661 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:23,669 was under the guidance of doctor current 662 00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:24,480 pub 663 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:27,519 piranpakti i learned there are two types 664 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:30,159 of death of stars 665 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:33,279 i learned how some stars die quietly 666 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:38,080 as white dwarfs and how some stars 667 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,720 explode with all their power for the 668 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:41,519 last time 669 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,799 and leave this beautiful remnants 670 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,799 after i gained some knowledge i was 671 00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:50,880 surfing the internet and suddenly saw 672 00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:53,519 this science article 673 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,559 it was supernova remnant from 6 000 674 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,080 light years away 675 00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:00,799 our charming crab nebula this was an 676 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,200 article about the club netherlands 677 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,039 and then it said the crab nebula was 678 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:07,600 discovered in 1731 679 00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:16,470 bevis and then this article was writing 680 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:17,600 on something about 681 00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,559 that i didn't know before it said 682 00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,399 astronomers 683 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,640 found out when the crab nebula was 684 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,440 formed 685 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:28,480 with the help of ancient records 686 00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,080 in 1928 hubble announced that they found 687 00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:34,399 out the record of a supernova 688 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:38,159 1054 in ancient chinese documents 689 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,840 and the crab nebula is a remnant of the 690 00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:42,720 supernova 691 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:46,559 the ancient chinese documents say tj era 692 00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,960 first year seventh lunar month 22nd day 693 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,080 summer in southeast sky 694 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:57,120 a strange star has appeared 695 00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:00,159 its color was reddish white it was 696 00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:01,919 bright as a venus 697 00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:04,399 that could be seen in daylight for 23 698 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:05,600 days 699 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:08,320 the star was visible at night for two 700 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:09,200 years 701 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,120 and then gradually disappeared in spring 702 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,840 the records of supernova 1054 can be 703 00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:17,279 found not only in 704 00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:20,960 china but also in korea japan turkey 705 00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:23,360 and in the mural by native americans in 706 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,080 arizona region 707 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:28,640 as journalists confirmed the exact date 708 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:29,279 of 709 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:33,440 the crescent moon and the mural 710 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:37,279 the supernova exploded on july 5th 711 00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:41,679 54 and this last paragraph just 712 00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,279 intrigued me i began to imagine people 713 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:46,799 in one summer day in 10 714 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,399 54 suddenly people see a new strange 715 00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:52,880 star that is so bright that can be seen 716 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:56,320 even in daytime people get so curious 717 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,960 about it 718 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:59,039 some of them worry some of them are 719 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,080 fascinated 720 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,120 ask each other what it is and then even 721 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,120 though they don't have an answer 722 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,840 they just write it down withdraw with 723 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:09,359 them 724 00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:12,960 record it they observe and record 725 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,159 because they want to know what it is 726 00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:18,720 people pass down their curiosities and 727 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,230 and then almost a thousand years after 728 00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,200 descendants study it and with knowledge 729 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:33,200 that has accumulated through numerous 730 00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:34,560 generations 731 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,839 finally answered the question they tell 732 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:39,520 their ancestors 733 00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,800 it wasn't a new star it was the death of 734 00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:44,560 a star 735 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,679 people communicate beyond time 736 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,919 here's my musical reenactment of people 737 00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,520 who witnessed the explosion of the 738 00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:55,040 supernova 739 00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:58,240 in my imaginations they are filled with 740 00:35:04,530 --> 00:34:59,520 curiosities 741 00:36:21,829 --> 00:35:42,829 [Music] 742 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:25,270 people have studied the supernova 1054 743 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,400 for a thousand years 744 00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:30,720 while people were doing this it's 745 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:31,520 remnant 746 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:34,800 the crab nebula very slowly expanded for 747 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:40,550 another article that inspired me in 748 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:43,520 writing this piece was this 749 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:46,880 the last breath of a dying star 750 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,950 the articles said it takes a few 751 00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:56,720 thousand years for a star 752 00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:00,160 to breathe for the last time it feels 753 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:00,800 like an 754 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,839 eternity for our students but it is just 755 00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:04,880 a split second 756 00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:08,320 for a star whose entire life is several 757 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:15,829 the crab nebula is the star's last 758 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:16,480 breath 759 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:19,680 that lasts for a few thousand years 760 00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:23,200 also remember the crab nebula is 6000 761 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,119 light years away from us 762 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:27,200 so maybe all of this events we are 763 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,560 seeing now 764 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:30,720 already has ended in the universe a few 765 00:37:42,370 --> 00:37:37,349 let me play you my imagination of a 766 00:38:30,220 --> 00:37:48,829 [Music] 767 00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:30,230 [Applause] 768 00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:08,420 [Music] 769 00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,790 the supernova 1054 and the crab nebula 770 00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,680 tell us how we study explore and 771 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,480 accumulate knowledge through generations 772 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,960 it is the story of people who diligently 773 00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,760 observe 774 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:42,160 and record unknown phenomena when there 775 00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,520 is no guarantee 776 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:45,440 they'll have an explanation in their 777 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:47,760 lives 778 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,920 it is the story of people who step onto 779 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:51,599 the stepping stones 780 00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:54,880 laid by their ancestors and finally 781 00:40:02,550 --> 00:39:57,920 find the answer to the long awaited 782 00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,560 question even at this very moment 783 00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,800 i imagine people are communicating with 784 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:06,319 it with the fast 785 00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:10,000 and future laying out or stepping 786 00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:13,920 on the stone a desire for knowledge 787 00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:17,520 is the driving force of human history 788 00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:20,960 my music is a contribute is tribute 789 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,390 our next speaker is kuwait 790 00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:32,960 kuwait is going to talk about his piece 791 00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:34,160 beyond the horizon 792 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,790 thank you so you know 793 00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,680 okay my name is gooey and i'm so happy 794 00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:57,280 to be here 795 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:00,880 um and thank you to 796 00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:03,920 um sdsci for having us and 797 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,800 um i'm so happy to be here to present my 798 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,440 music together with my friends from 799 00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:12,640 consonants and bergamot content so 800 00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:17,520 um my piece is called beyond the horizon 801 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:21,760 and um when 802 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,280 when the project first started um 803 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:27,839 i wanted to do something that's really 804 00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:28,720 mysterious 805 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:31,839 about the universe and since 806 00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:34,960 i've always been fascinated by 807 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:38,880 the idea of like space travel 808 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:42,160 and like going to different dimensions 809 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,760 in space i wanted to do something about 810 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,520 black holes because black holes is 811 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:49,040 something that's really 812 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:51,760 mysterious to us we don't know a whole 813 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:54,640 lot a whole lot about it 814 00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:57,760 so i want to explore into the idea of 815 00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,800 traveling into a black hole and 816 00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,720 not only know not knowing what's going 817 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,119 to happen when we go in 818 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:08,560 and yeah the idea of mystery 819 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:11,440 um but that's about my piece and my 820 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,480 piece 821 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:15,359 the overall structure is divided into 822 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,079 three main 823 00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,640 sections so there's a brief introduction 824 00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,160 which sets a scene 825 00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:23,040 in a vast universe and the second 826 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,079 section 827 00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:26,560 uh is it's about a journey of the 828 00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:29,440 protagonist into the black hole 829 00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:33,839 and the third is my imagination of 830 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:37,280 the emergence of the protagonist 831 00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:45,990 the black hole is not like it's not 832 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:48,160 where there is certain depth but there 833 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,359 uh there is a hope 834 00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:52,000 right there there's a hole that will go 835 00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,800 somewhere 836 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:55,040 um when we enter the black hole so in 837 00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,480 this case it's actually 838 00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,520 a wormhole and as i wrote 839 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,560 in the program notes of my piece this 840 00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:04,640 piece is a musical interpretation of 841 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:08,240 my imagination of the unknown beyond the 842 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,520 event horizon 843 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,839 that's the title beyond the horizon 844 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,119 which could lead to a point of 845 00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:14,800 singularity where everything 846 00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,079 is ceases to exist or to another 847 00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,720 universe in which case the black hole is 848 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:23,359 in fact a wormhole 849 00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,400 so i'm going to play you two excerpts 850 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,440 from my piece and the first excerpt 851 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:32,800 is taken from the journey 852 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:38,000 into the black hole and in this excerpt 853 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,400 i explored two kind of physical effects 854 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:45,440 and i tried to um portray these two kind 855 00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:46,720 of effects 856 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:48,960 musically so the first one is time 857 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:49,920 dilation 858 00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:52,480 the idea of time gradually slowing down 859 00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:53,359 for 860 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:57,520 into the black hole 861 00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:01,119 um to reflect that kind of time slowing 862 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,000 down 863 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:06,240 over the course of a few minutes 864 00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:10,400 um it's like i think over three minutes 865 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,839 so so over the course of three minutes 866 00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,760 it just quit it just gradually slows 867 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,680 down bit by bit 868 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:18,880 and i also use some extended techniques 869 00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:21,119 so they're like techniques that you 870 00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:22,160 wouldn't normally 871 00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:25,599 hear um in extremes 872 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,119 uh such as stretch tones which are um 873 00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:31,920 which is kind of when you apply a lot of 874 00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:32,640 pressure 875 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,880 onto the stream so you create a very 876 00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:36,640 scratchy and 877 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:40,160 noisy tone and glissandi which is like 878 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:44,079 pitch vents so these kind of 879 00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:47,760 effects depict the 880 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,560 idea of distortion as created by the 881 00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,880 the immense gravitational forces of a 882 00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:56,720 black hole 883 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:00,480 and then secondly is 884 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:04,560 the doppler effect so um 885 00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,680 the visual um the visual version of the 886 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:09,040 buffer effect 887 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:12,319 as we enter black hole is 888 00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,839 that light from outside the black hole 889 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,119 will become 890 00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:20,640 blue shifted because of the of immense 891 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:24,720 gravitational force from the black hole 892 00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:27,920 so in order to 893 00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,400 reflect that kind of doppler effect i 894 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:32,400 use the audio version of the buffer 895 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,200 effect 896 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,400 so i guess one of the most famous um um 897 00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:39,040 examples of the buffer effect in daily 898 00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:39,440 life 899 00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:42,000 is like when when you're walking on the 900 00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:43,119 streets and 901 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,550 [Music] 902 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,960 so kind of like the pitch gradually 903 00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:54,319 descends right 904 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,839 as it passes by you so um 905 00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,599 there is a little bit of that in the 906 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,560 piece as i 907 00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:05,440 give the strings the violins in 908 00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:06,400 particular 909 00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,359 some fragments where the pitch gradually 910 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:10,800 descends 911 00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:15,920 so that's a doppler effect and 912 00:46:35,110 --> 00:46:40,829 [Music] 913 00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:55,610 uh 914 00:46:55,620 --> 00:48:16,150 [Music] 915 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,190 all right so and then now 916 00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,119 um i'm going to tell you guys the second 917 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,280 excerpt and in this excerpt is from the 918 00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:25,520 final section of the piece 919 00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:29,599 where the traveler emerges 920 00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:32,559 from the white hole so again this is 921 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:33,200 totally 922 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,680 but um i like to bring some kind of 923 00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:41,520 artistic liberty into 924 00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,960 the other piece um so this is based on 925 00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:47,040 yeah the hypothetical white hole and 926 00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:48,400 wormhole 927 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:51,119 and from which the protagonist emerges 928 00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,599 into 929 00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:54,079 another part of space-time so again the 930 00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:59,270 inter-dimensional travel to another part 931 00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:00,480 of space-time 932 00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:02,240 that really intrigued me as i was 933 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,599 writing this piece 934 00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,240 and the tone in this piece shifts to 935 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,319 something that's more hopeful 936 00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,960 and more uplifting and to reflect that 937 00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,520 there is 938 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,160 a technique which i use is and that's 939 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:16,400 called like um like a 940 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:19,920 micro total modulation so the 941 00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:23,520 pitch of this melody which repeats over 942 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:24,319 and over again 943 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:31,109 a bit by bit and as you can hear in the 944 00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,400 following excerpt 945 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:35,040 there's um the same melody it gradually 946 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:35,760 gets higher 947 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:38,800 and higher and higher and 948 00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,440 um the gradual rise is very subtle 949 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,440 and that kind of leads to the final 950 00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:47,920 climax of the piece 951 00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,280 which ends up the piece in a like a 952 00:50:01,830 --> 00:49:54,960 huge um a huge climax okay so i'm gonna 953 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:38,829 [Music] 954 00:50:38,839 --> 00:50:42,940 foreign 955 00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:06,829 [Music] 956 00:51:34,839 --> 00:51:41,490 me 957 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:57,750 [Music] 958 00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:00,870 all right that concludes my presentation 959 00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:03,680 and last one and last but not least we 960 00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:04,160 have 961 00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:08,160 um my esteemed colleague daniel daskins 962 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:09,680 who will be presenting 963 00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:12,480 on his piece called dark mysteries about 964 00:52:16,839 --> 00:52:22,710 matter 965 00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,390 thanks so much for that introduction 966 00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,040 giveaway and uh 967 00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:30,319 thank you to sdsci for having us here 968 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,440 it is uh it's a really great honor and 969 00:52:37,829 --> 00:52:35,680 uh wonderful opportunity to be able to 970 00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:37,839 share our music with all of you 971 00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,040 um as do i said my 972 00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:43,280 piece is called dark mysteries and it's 973 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:44,800 about the concept of 974 00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,480 dark matter so uh 975 00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:50,400 my original inspiration for this piece 976 00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:51,680 came from 977 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,200 this picture which uh nasa 978 00:53:03,670 --> 00:52:58,480 uh created in collaboration with 979 00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,430 the doughty cluster able2744 and uh 980 00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,119 the these beautiful colors that you see 981 00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,119 in the picture um 982 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:13,119 are a result of several images that were 983 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,160 put together 984 00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,200 and one of them is the 985 00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,920 mass distribution of the dark matter in 986 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:22,079 the galaxy cluster which you can see in 987 00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:22,880 the 988 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,200 explore dark matter 989 00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:36,160 in music is uh is actually because it's 990 00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,960 such a 991 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:39,599 big mystery to us still um hence the 992 00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:40,559 title of my piece 993 00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,309 so when in the in the 90s uh my 994 00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,319 understanding is that 995 00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:52,640 what astronomers thought of originally 996 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:54,880 was that the 997 00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:57,839 expansion of the universe was slowing 998 00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:58,640 down 999 00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,960 uh over time but the hubble space 1000 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:01,760 telescope 1001 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:04,240 actually took pictures of things at the 1002 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,200 edge of the universe 1003 00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,839 that proved that the expansion of the 1004 00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:09,520 universe is not slowing down 1005 00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:12,480 it's actually speeding up and no one 1006 00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,119 could 1007 00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,079 explain why so this theory was created 1008 00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:18,319 that there was some kind of 1009 00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,599 force or uh presence of matter 1010 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,000 that was actually taking up a vast 1011 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,720 majority of the universe 1012 00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,640 but the funny thing about dark matter is 1013 00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,960 that there's so much we don't know about 1014 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:31,359 it 1015 00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:42,480 uh a lot of our current technology 1016 00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,000 um the cool thing that the fascinating 1017 00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,839 thing that i found about dark matter was 1018 00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,720 that 1019 00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,440 even though we can't see it its presence 1020 00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,040 can still be observed uh 1021 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,920 indirectly by the way it interacts with 1022 00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,960 other things 1023 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,040 so that's why in this picture i have 1024 00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:00,720 here um 1025 00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,160 you can see that the um 1026 00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,880 there are these blue halos surrounding 1027 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,520 these uh 1028 00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:10,079 pictures of galaxy clusters and uh 1029 00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,440 that's because the 1030 00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,160 of the way that the light is bending is 1031 00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,160 actually being affected by the 1032 00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:19,440 uh gravitational pull of the dark matter 1033 00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:22,480 so you can see that the um 1034 00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,280 the dark matter is uh itself is not 1035 00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:26,880 visible but it's actually 1036 00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,440 affecting the uh the way the light is 1037 00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,440 bending around it and i thought that was 1038 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,119 it's like a really fascinating and 1039 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,559 profound thing 1040 00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,720 um as well as the fact that there is 1041 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:38,400 this force in the universe 1042 00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:41,839 that controls so much of uh 1043 00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:44,640 what we know about the universe and yet 1044 00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:45,040 we 1045 00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:50,240 little about that force itself 1046 00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:53,839 so i'd like to share a couple clips of 1047 00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,160 my piece with you the first one um 1048 00:56:01,430 --> 00:56:00,319 in the first clip you're going to hear 1049 00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,440 what i was 1050 00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:03,839 messing around with uh or experimenting 1051 00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:04,799 with rather 1052 00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,079 which are these things called sub tones 1053 00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:11,200 so uh when you when you place when you 1054 00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,160 take two or more 1055 00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:14,160 very very high pitches and you place 1056 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:15,680 them very close together 1057 00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,359 what happens is that this sort of 1058 00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,040 phantom lower tone 1059 00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:24,160 uh appears and it sort of has this 1060 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,040 effect of 1061 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:28,079 um ringing in your ear but this 1062 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,760 tone is not actually being played by the 1063 00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:31,599 quartet it's uh 1064 00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:35,440 it's sort of a uh an um musical 1065 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,240 effect so uh i thought that was a really 1066 00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:39,440 cool way of 1067 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,040 uh demonstrating how uh musically how 1068 00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:46,240 dark matter is like 1069 00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:50,079 not entirely um 1070 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,760 like we can't perceive it but it is 1071 00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:53,280 still there uh 1072 00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:56,000 affecting us so what you're about to 1073 00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:56,640 hear are 1074 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,720 these musical subtones being played uh 1075 00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,760 by the quartet while this sort of very 1076 00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,040 fast and 1077 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,680 violent and very difficult cello solo is 1078 00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:09,200 being played underneath it 1079 00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:12,990 so let's take a listen 1080 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:14,730 [Applause] 1081 00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:19,370 [Music] 1082 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:19,600 [Applause] 1083 00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:44,380 [Music] 1084 00:57:52,839 --> 00:57:58,470 so 1085 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:06,829 [Music] 1086 00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:10,470 um 1087 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,750 [Music] 1088 00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:17,829 all right and then the uh the next clip 1089 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:19,040 i want to share with you comes 1090 00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:20,400 immediately after 1091 00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,079 um and uh in this section of music i 1092 00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,160 wanted to demonstrate uh 1093 00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,200 just how uh i wanted to demonstrate 1094 00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:30,559 musically how 1095 00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:34,880 the universe is uh expanding added 1096 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:38,240 faster and faster rate so naturally i 1097 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:39,200 wanted the music 1098 00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:42,960 to increase gradually uh in speed 1099 00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:46,400 until it reaches a sort of fever pitch 1100 00:58:55,660 --> 00:58:53,900 [Music] 1101 00:59:02,829 --> 00:58:55,670 [Applause] 1102 00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:02,839 [Music] 1103 00:59:44,829 --> 00:59:04,590 that 1104 00:59:44,839 --> 00:59:52,030 hey 1105 01:01:30,000 --> 01:00:22,700 [Music] 1106 01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:30,010 [Applause] 1107 01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:41,410 so 1108 01:02:09,589 --> 01:01:58,360 [Music] 1109 01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:11,190 i should add that the uh some of the 1110 01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,640 videos and pictures 1111 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:15,119 used for throughout were simulations of 1112 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:16,000 what 1113 01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:18,559 the uh distribution of dark matter 1114 01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:20,000 throughout the universe might look 1115 01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:23,200 like if it was visualized and uh 1116 01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:25,200 i thought those were very beautiful and 1117 01:02:29,430 --> 01:02:26,319 added in 1118 01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:29,440 uh added a layer of profundity to 1119 01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:32,480 this entire production so uh 1120 01:02:36,309 --> 01:02:34,559 thank you for watching and for listening 1121 01:02:38,950 --> 01:02:36,319 so next up i'd like to 1122 01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:38,960 introduce the four people or reintroduce 1123 01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,640 rather the four people who 1124 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,720 uh made this entire project happen 1125 01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:44,400 without them uh 1126 01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:47,440 this wouldn't have happened of course so 1127 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:50,160 uh here are four of my esteemed 1128 01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,880 colleagues 1129 01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:52,880 the wonderfully talented bergamot 1130 01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:01,589 hi everyone thanks dan for turning it 1131 01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,680 over to us um 1132 01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,359 we're super happy to be part of this 1133 01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:06,799 this is really fun for us 1134 01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,280 and um it's so great to hear all the 1135 01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:10,960 members of consonants collective 1136 01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:13,520 really talk through both the inspiration 1137 01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,119 and the methodology behind their pieces 1138 01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,799 it's really fascinating 1139 01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,799 um we've learned a lot through this 1140 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:20,160 project and it's been 1141 01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:22,720 it's been really fun um we all think 1142 01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,079 space is cool but none of us knew that 1143 01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:26,000 much beforehand and 1144 01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:27,680 i can certainly see for myself and say 1145 01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:29,440 that i know a lot more now and my 1146 01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:30,079 curiosity 1147 01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:33,440 is peaked to learn more um 1148 01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,720 so we're just going to talk a little bit 1149 01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,559 about what the what the string quartet 1150 01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:38,400 side of this process was like for us 1151 01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:41,599 and what our experience was um 1152 01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:43,520 this was a pretty unique project for us 1153 01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:44,799 actually um 1154 01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:46,960 as a quartet we as irene said in the 1155 01:03:50,470 --> 01:03:49,039 introduction primarily focus on music by 1156 01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:50,480 living composers 1157 01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:53,039 um which means that we get to have kind 1158 01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:55,039 of a more collaborative process 1159 01:03:58,230 --> 01:03:56,799 in the music that we program than the 1160 01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,240 average string quartet 1161 01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:00,240 um there's a ton of repertoire for 1162 01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:01,760 string quartet out there most of it was 1163 01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:02,720 written by 1164 01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:05,200 people who died a long time ago so when 1165 01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:06,720 we perform music often we get to 1166 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:08,400 collaborate directly with the composers 1167 01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:09,599 and that's amazing because we could ask 1168 01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:11,200 them any question that we want 1169 01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,799 um and the composers can even make 1170 01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,039 changes based on what they hear 1171 01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:17,119 but more than that with this project 1172 01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,640 with consonants we really got to craft 1173 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:20,319 this whole program with them 1174 01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:23,200 um we sat down together over a year ago 1175 01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:24,480 and kind of just talked about what we 1176 01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:25,680 were interested in and what this could 1177 01:04:29,029 --> 01:04:26,799 look like 1178 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:29,039 and um knowing that there was a goal to 1179 01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,480 have a multimedia component was 1180 01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,839 especially exciting for us because 1181 01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:33,280 that's been a goal of ours for a long 1182 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:34,400 time and something that we're starting 1183 01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:36,400 to do more as well with our projects 1184 01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:40,240 just as a quartet so we really got to 1185 01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,359 have this very 1186 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:43,440 personal and collaborative process from 1187 01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:45,200 start to finish with consonants which is 1188 01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,160 awesome 1189 01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:48,319 we um we already knew all of them from 1190 01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,079 school at peabody 1191 01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:51,599 so we were able to be in touch pretty 1192 01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:52,960 continually throughout the process 1193 01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:54,880 whenever any of the composers had 1194 01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:56,480 questions or wanted to hear a snippet of 1195 01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,839 their piece we could kind of 1196 01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,599 have dialogue back and forth about that 1197 01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,920 and that makes bringing music to life 1198 01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:03,839 especially exciting for us because we 1199 01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:05,200 know that it's really written with 1200 01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:08,720 with us and our instruments in mind um 1201 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,760 so it has the potential to be 1202 01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:13,920 really a very profound collaboration for 1203 01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,280 everyone involved 1204 01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,680 and i hope that that comes through with 1205 01:05:22,150 --> 01:05:19,839 music to everyone listening um 1206 01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,160 the music is incredibly dense but really 1207 01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:23,839 just gorgeous and 1208 01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,119 i think extremely successful um 1209 01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:28,559 i also wanted to mention a little bit 1210 01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:30,240 about why we think this kind of 1211 01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:31,200 collaboration 1212 01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:34,640 should happen and keep happening between 1213 01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:36,960 performers composers and people from 1214 01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:38,559 totally different disciplines in this 1215 01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:39,599 case 1216 01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:42,720 astronomy um 1217 01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:45,359 i really think that something as vast as 1218 01:05:49,990 --> 01:05:46,960 the study of space 1219 01:05:51,670 --> 01:05:50,000 um kind of needs to be explored 1220 01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:51,680 from the perspective of many different 1221 01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,880 mediums um 1222 01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:56,799 because we can't really you know someone 1223 01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:00,160 like me who's got has a degree in music 1224 01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:01,760 can't really visualize what's out there 1225 01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,990 by by reading scientific texts and kind 1226 01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:09,520 of going about it the science and math 1227 01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:10,240 way 1228 01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:13,280 um but being able to play music that was 1229 01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,799 written about it helps bring it to life 1230 01:06:17,510 --> 01:06:15,680 for me 1231 01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:17,520 and i think i speak for all four of us 1232 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:19,280 when i say that and and hopefully some 1233 01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:20,160 of you listeners 1234 01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:23,359 might feel the same way um it's a way in 1235 01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:26,400 for us to the emotional aspect of 1236 01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:30,240 learning about these vast topics um 1237 01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:31,680 and i think soyuna spoke really 1238 01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:33,359 beautifully about that in particular 1239 01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:35,599 when she was talking about her piece um 1240 01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,960 there's this incredible 1241 01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:38,240 emotion that comes with this kind of 1242 01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:39,839 discovery and i think that's what has 1243 01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,000 kept humanity going for millennia 1244 01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:44,400 um so we think that collaborating 1245 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:45,920 between the arts and sciences is a 1246 01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,319 really really rich endeavor 1247 01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:50,559 and if this had if this project had 1248 01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,359 occurred 1249 01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,599 not in covet times we were planning to 1250 01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:55,440 kind of tore it to schools and various 1251 01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,640 educational 1252 01:06:59,990 --> 01:06:58,720 um circumstances so we could share it 1253 01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:00,000 with younger listeners 1254 01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,549 science and math can coexist with music 1255 01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:09,839 because of course all of those fields 1256 01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:11,680 have a very long history of coexisting 1257 01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:12,960 in ancient greece they were thought to 1258 01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:13,359 be 1259 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,640 really on the same plane and kind of 1260 01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:16,400 using the same parts of the brain 1261 01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:19,440 um so that's super fascinating and 1262 01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:21,920 and we really think that there should be 1263 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:23,359 many more projects like this in the 1264 01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,760 world 1265 01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,200 there of course are but we really want 1266 01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:27,200 to see this continue this kind of 1267 01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,000 multimedia 1268 01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:31,200 and um uh 1269 01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:34,240 crossing crossing careers i guess um 1270 01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,599 collaboration so 1271 01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:39,839 earlier on when bobby was talking about 1272 01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:40,799 this project 1273 01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:43,280 he mentioned that these pieces use 1274 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:44,799 non-traditional 1275 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,160 repertoire for the string quartet and i 1276 01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:50,400 wanted to talk a little bit more about 1277 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:53,599 what that means so again you've probably 1278 01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:54,480 noticed that 1279 01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:56,240 this music doesn't sound a whole lot 1280 01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:58,400 like mozart or beethoven who 1281 01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:00,559 when we ask people what they think of 1282 01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:02,000 when we say classical music 1283 01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:03,680 those two composers are usually who they 1284 01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:06,240 list first um 1285 01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,599 repertoire for the string quartet has 1286 01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:09,280 evolved a lot in the last few hundred 1287 01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:10,079 years 1288 01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:13,520 um as exhibited by these five pieces um 1289 01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:16,000 of course they they draw on the on the 1290 01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:17,359 lineage that's been there since the time 1291 01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:18,560 of haydn 1292 01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:21,839 um and so each 1293 01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,679 each of these five composers have used 1294 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:25,199 different techniques to 1295 01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,040 evoke the elements of space that they 1296 01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:29,199 chose to focus on 1297 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:30,319 and we're just going to dive into 1298 01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:31,679 talking a little bit more specifically 1299 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:33,600 about what those were and how it felt to 1300 01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,390 so bobby mentioned during his 1301 01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:40,400 presentation that his piece uses box 1302 01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,440 notation 1303 01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:43,520 which is different from traditional 1304 01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,719 notation in that 1305 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,719 traditional notation is written on a 1306 01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,159 five-line staff 1307 01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:49,920 um kind of like you'd write on a line in 1308 01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:53,040 notebook paper per se um 1309 01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,880 when we have and that tells time that 1310 01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:56,880 tells location on the fingerboard 1311 01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:03,110 and basically every parameter that we 1312 01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,799 need to know when we're reading music 1313 01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,880 when using box notation it's a lot less 1314 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:08,319 specific so 1315 01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:10,960 that can look like a lot of things um it 1316 01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:12,159 might give us kind of 1317 01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:13,839 a general pitch area where we get to 1318 01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,679 choose specific pitches out of it 1319 01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:17,440 it might give specific pitches but we 1320 01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:19,279 get to pick the order so it allows us 1321 01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:20,080 this 1322 01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,480 element of improvisation which is really 1323 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,560 fun to play it it forces us to 1324 01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:30,480 really communicate to an even greater 1325 01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:32,239 degree than we already do as for string 1326 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:33,440 quartet players 1327 01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:36,480 um and it allows us to really 1328 01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,199 find kind of a core of sound that feels 1329 01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:40,880 the most right to us 1330 01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:44,239 um so i think the presence of this box 1331 01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,359 notation in 1332 01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,359 in sections of bobby's piece really 1333 01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:49,359 helped us find a specific character 1334 01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:52,400 um and bobby piece is super exciting i 1335 01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:53,839 really hope you're able to check out the 1336 01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,239 full 1337 01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:55,920 versions of all five of these pieces 1338 01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,040 because they're amazing um 1339 01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,280 but that's something that probably 1340 01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,040 started outside of classical music you 1341 01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:05,040 might see it some in jazz 1342 01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:07,360 um and in this experimental music in 1343 01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,480 particular 1344 01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,960 um but we're really glad that bobby 1345 01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:12,239 chose to write in that way for this 1346 01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:12,960 piece 1347 01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:16,080 um one thing we thought was notable 1348 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:16,640 about 1349 01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,920 zach's piece iridescence um was he uses 1350 01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,840 this huge range of the instruments and 1351 01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,360 i'm talking about like the lowest 1352 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:26,000 note the c on the cello to the very 1353 01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:26,640 highest 1354 01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,800 harmonics on the violin which the violin 1355 01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:30,239 can literally play notes that are so 1356 01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,960 high you can't hear them 1357 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,400 sarah and i are definitely a little bit 1358 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:36,000 deaf in our left ears 1359 01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,320 um after many years of playing but 1360 01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:43,440 um zach making use of that huge 1361 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:46,159 range of the string quartet i think 1362 01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:47,600 really evokes 1363 01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,960 this sense of vastness um and he talked 1364 01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:52,080 about the piece being very hard and it 1365 01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:53,120 is very hard 1366 01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:55,760 um zach also used some kind of 1367 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:56,960 non-specific 1368 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,960 notation in moments that allowed us to 1369 01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:00,320 kind of just play around 1370 01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,800 creating really um what i like to think 1371 01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:04,560 of as a space rather than 1372 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,760 a linear narrative um 1373 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:09,120 traditional notation i think lends 1374 01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:10,800 itself much more to linear narrative 1375 01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,280 whereas more experimental notation 1376 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,719 allows us to kind of 1377 01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:16,320 create this setting that we're playing 1378 01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:18,159 around within in a less kind of from 1379 01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:19,040 point a to point b 1380 01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,960 way um i think that was that was audible 1381 01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:24,560 in the very opening of zach's piece that 1382 01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:26,000 she played 1383 01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:31,360 for us earlier um so yuna's piece 1384 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,080 is i think a lot different than the 1385 01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:35,760 others in some ways she definitely 1386 01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,880 wrote the slowest piece of the five 1387 01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:41,440 um and this piece is so gorgeous we 1388 01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,400 really fell in love with it from the 1389 01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:44,159 moment we played the first melodies 1390 01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:48,080 um and also really liked that she chose 1391 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,080 to work with kind of the more emotional 1392 01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:52,880 side of exploration rather than specific 1393 01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:53,600 um 1394 01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:56,640 scientific phenomena which is really 1395 01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:57,920 cool and going back to what i was saying 1396 01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:58,719 earlier 1397 01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,600 we think it's really important to use 1398 01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,520 music to explore this side of 1399 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:06,000 space exploration because we can really 1400 01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:07,360 relate to it 1401 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,719 um something we love about soyuna's 1402 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:12,400 piece is that these slow 1403 01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,000 these slow melodies in the beginning and 1404 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,120 end really call to mind 1405 01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,719 like ancient times you kind of this 1406 01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:20,400 whole stretch of time from the first 1407 01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,840 space explorers to now um 1408 01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:25,440 and we can kind of empathize with that 1409 01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,360 wonder that that every person making 1410 01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:29,360 discoveries about the world beyond our 1411 01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:29,920 own 1412 01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:33,199 have felt um 1413 01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:34,560 for good ways peace this place was 1414 01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:35,760 really this piece was really wild to 1415 01:12:39,430 --> 01:12:36,560 play 1416 01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:39,440 um he talked about the doppler effect 1417 01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:40,960 being present in the piece 1418 01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,080 and i'm sure you heard that the tonality 1419 01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:46,159 was a little bit weird in this piece 1420 01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:49,280 um over the course of the last third or 1421 01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:50,560 so of the piece 1422 01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:53,199 he actually asks us to very gradually 1423 01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:53,600 kind of 1424 01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:56,960 shift up the fingerboard um 1425 01:13:01,510 --> 01:13:00,080 it's like a modulation if um 1426 01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:01,520 if there's some is if this is something 1427 01:13:03,990 --> 01:13:02,800 that's familiar to anyone that's 1428 01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,000 studying music at all 1429 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:07,040 um where we move from one key to another 1430 01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:09,760 in the case of blueway's piece we move 1431 01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,080 just 1432 01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:12,400 a very short distance so it's not even 1433 01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,120 like 1434 01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:16,640 a full notes worth of distance um 1435 01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,320 and doing this over the course of 1436 01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:20,880 several minutes is really hard 1437 01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,080 to do at the same time um but 1438 01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:27,360 super unsettling and it really feels 1439 01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:28,000 like we do 1440 01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:30,080 kind of move from a familiar world into 1441 01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:31,280 an alien one 1442 01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,880 maybe like you look in the mirror and 1443 01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,920 something on the other side of the 1444 01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:35,199 mirror moves and you didn't move like 1445 01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:36,400 that kind of 1446 01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:43,189 and it's really fun to play and 1447 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,920 something like this 1448 01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:45,679 is really only possible for an ensemble 1449 01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:47,120 like a string quartet because we don't 1450 01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:48,560 have frets on our fingerboard we can 1451 01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:49,360 really slide 1452 01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,640 to any point we want to on our 1453 01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:51,840 fingerboard we can play all the notes 1454 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:53,920 between the notes as you might say 1455 01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:56,800 um so really playing with these subtle 1456 01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:58,960 shifts of pitch and time 1457 01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:02,640 um was a huge element of kuwai's piece 1458 01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:03,120 calling 1459 01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:05,840 to mind what happens to time and space 1460 01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:07,760 when you go through a black hole 1461 01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:11,199 um and then and dan's piece 1462 01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,239 as he was talking about um there's this 1463 01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:16,239 kind of magical 1464 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,800 tone that occurs when you play three 1465 01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:21,120 very high notes very close together 1466 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:22,640 this is related to what i was saying 1467 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:24,400 with gooey's piece how there's kind of 1468 01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:26,080 notes between the notes that we are able 1469 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:28,000 to play on our stream instruments 1470 01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:32,000 um and in rehearsal we call it our 1471 01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:32,719 special friend 1472 01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:35,440 or our friend because it's this pitch 1473 01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,719 that just appears and it's coming from 1474 01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:38,000 nowhere 1475 01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:39,600 and you can only hear it if you listen 1476 01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:42,719 very closely it's pretty creepy but very 1477 01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:45,760 effective um 1478 01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:47,120 and this is a really fun effect to play 1479 01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:48,880 again not super kind to me in sarah's 1480 01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:49,600 ears 1481 01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:52,960 but super worth it um 1482 01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,080 and that this is something we always 1483 01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,000 wish composers would use more because 1484 01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:59,360 it's so rich um 1485 01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:02,080 this range of pitches that are available 1486 01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:02,960 to us that 1487 01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,480 typically are not used by people 1488 01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,480 composing western classical music 1489 01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,960 so um so that's a little fun a lot of 1490 01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:09,600 fun 1491 01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:12,960 and um 1492 01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:14,239 so yeah that's kind of broad strokes 1493 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:16,000 overview of what our experience learning 1494 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:17,440 the pieces was like 1495 01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:19,760 um we got to record them all in studio 1496 01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,600 in baltimore together last fall which 1497 01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:23,440 was super fun that was 1498 01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,719 i think the first time since our initial 1499 01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:27,679 meeting that 1500 01:15:30,870 --> 01:15:29,360 most of us not all of us most of us were 1501 01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:30,880 in the same room together 1502 01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:34,239 which was great um and yeah did 1503 01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:35,840 any of the other bergamots have anything 1504 01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:39,040 to add to that 1505 01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:40,719 i think that was a really good summary 1506 01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,239 um yeah i 1507 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:44,159 really enjoyed playing all of these 1508 01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:45,920 pieces and getting to know the composers 1509 01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:47,440 through their music and i really hope 1510 01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:48,320 that 1511 01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:50,840 other people will perform these pieces 1512 01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:52,080 because 1513 01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,760 it really is all of them have 1514 01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:58,080 really amazing techniques and textures 1515 01:16:04,550 --> 01:15:59,120 that i think everyone should 1516 01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:07,590 yeah absolutely um the music is written 1517 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,560 down and 1518 01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,000 should absolutely be played by other 1519 01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:12,400 string quartets 1520 01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:16,080 um so please throw any questions 1521 01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:19,040 in the chat on youtube we'd love to to 1522 01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,080 talk more about 1523 01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,800 how this all came together um and i 1524 01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:24,719 think i'm gonna toss it back to bobby to 1525 01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:30,229 yeah thank you so much bergamot and uh 1526 01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:31,520 well yeah thanks so much leeda really 1527 01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:32,960 for giving all those incredibly 1528 01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,400 insightful thoughts and um 1529 01:16:38,229 --> 01:16:36,480 i don't know insights to how realizing 1530 01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:38,239 our pieces was all that is actually 1531 01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:39,600 really interesting for us as composers 1532 01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:40,560 to know as well 1533 01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:42,560 and we hope that just as um yeah just as 1534 01:16:45,270 --> 01:16:44,239 lay people were a science people that 1535 01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:45,280 some of that was interesting and 1536 01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:46,880 engaging to you 1537 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,040 um i have to give credit where credit is 1538 01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:51,280 due um and also thank the various 1539 01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,960 organizations that helped support this 1540 01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:54,480 project including the maryland states 1541 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:55,440 art council 1542 01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:57,120 the jersey city arts council and the 1543 01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,360 awesome foundation for providing funding 1544 01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:00,560 that allowed us 1545 01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:02,560 um yeah to get this whole project going 1546 01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,480 and to figure out all the production not 1547 01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,000 cost and all that kind of thing 1548 01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:08,400 i also want to thank uh caroline xia who 1549 01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,040 is 1550 01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,080 a real monster filmmaker we gave her 1551 01:17:16,550 --> 01:17:15,040 five music videos to shoot in like a day 1552 01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,560 and she managed to pull it off so we 1553 01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:18,400 were incredibly grateful for that 1554 01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:20,719 um yeah so if you can we would love if 1555 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:22,640 you could stick around for a q a 1556 01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:26,800 and um if not uh may the fourth be with 1557 01:17:32,550 --> 01:17:27,199 you 1558 01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:32,560 all so much 1559 01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:34,719 all right thank you very much bobby and 1560 01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:35,920 thank you to all 1561 01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:39,280 our composers and our performers uh this 1562 01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,640 is truly a 1563 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:42,880 unique and special presentation for the 1564 01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:44,880 public lecture series 1565 01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:49,360 i will totally totally agree with leta 1566 01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:52,719 on all of this idea of trying to get art 1567 01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:55,280 and science working together as an 1568 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:57,199 astronomer who does visualizations you 1569 01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:58,400 know we take the 1570 01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:02,080 uh astronomy we put it into into into um 1571 01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:03,600 i get to pay an astronomer who makes 1572 01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,239 movies so i get to do a part of this 1573 01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:09,120 and i always say that adding the music 1574 01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,880 when we get to the visualization done 1575 01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:13,440 adding the music is such an important 1576 01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:14,239 element 1577 01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:16,800 to really bring up the emotion why 1578 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,760 doesn't everybody 1579 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,480 turn on their video cameras so that we 1580 01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:21,760 can see you all 1581 01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:24,840 and we'll have a big brady bunch type 1582 01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:28,159 presentation all right uh and we have 1583 01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:29,600 some questions now i 1584 01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:31,679 as host i get to ask uh some of the 1585 01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:33,199 first questions 1586 01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,960 so uh bobby um you were doing star 1587 01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:38,320 formation right 1588 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,960 stars and star formation and such and i 1589 01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,320 got to imagine that 1590 01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,719 um the star when it becomes goes main 1591 01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:46,560 sequence is when the fusion turns on 1592 01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,760 with hydrogen fusion 1593 01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:49,120 it turns into the core is there some 1594 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,880 sort of crescendo that that you know a 1595 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,120 musical element that says fusion 1596 01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,199 to you yeah yeah yeah totally that's 1597 01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:56,480 actually a really good question so the 1598 01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:56,960 part 1599 01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:59,440 leading up right to the like the last 1600 01:19:01,910 --> 01:19:01,040 excerpt that i showed this pretty ec 1601 01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:01,920 major bit 1602 01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,600 is probably some of the thorniest and 1603 01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:04,960 most violent that 1604 01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:07,199 um that at least my piece gets i don't 1605 01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,239 want to say the whole album but 1606 01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,159 basically what's happening there is 1607 01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:13,120 um almost there's like no basically 1608 01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:14,640 almost all the musicians are just like 1609 01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:16,239 shredding on their instruments and there 1610 01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:17,840 isn't really a kind of clear kind of 1611 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:19,520 pitch it's just super super violent and 1612 01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:20,880 really explosive 1613 01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:23,120 um it's super awesome and it was a lot 1614 01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:24,719 of fun watching the quartet sort of lean 1615 01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:25,920 into that because 1616 01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,320 um i don't yeah i haven't met musicians 1617 01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:29,840 who would be that willing to sort of 1618 01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,960 i don't know freak out i guess on from a 1619 01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:34,560 mic microphone so to speak yeah 1620 01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:37,679 a lot of fun all right um 1621 01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:41,199 i had a question for zach um you talked 1622 01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:43,520 about the video compositions that were 1623 01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:46,000 part of your sequence and so what i 1624 01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:46,800 wanted to know 1625 01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,080 was how much did the composers play a 1626 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:52,000 role in the video editing 1627 01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:54,000 right um because i know that you 1628 01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,840 probably worked on on the image 1629 01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:58,159 collecting images uh do you do part of 1630 01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:59,360 the editing or did you have somebody 1631 01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,800 else do it you stood over them 1632 01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,320 stick it over them said no i want this i 1633 01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:05,760 want this i want this how did that work 1634 01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:08,159 awesome question it was entirely a 1635 01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:09,440 collaborative process throughout the 1636 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:10,080 whole thing 1637 01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,239 um however the composers once they got 1638 01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:13,920 the raw footage so once they had 1639 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:16,480 all those amazing images visualizations 1640 01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:17,280 etc from 1641 01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,560 stsci and everyone and they had the raw 1642 01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:22,080 video from that 1643 01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,920 epic video shoot that bobby was just 1644 01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,679 talking about a few moments ago 1645 01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:28,320 we you know um shot like eight hours of 1646 01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:29,920 material from the string quartet once we 1647 01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:32,000 had all that raw material 1648 01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,960 it was basically on us to just put it 1649 01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,600 together 1650 01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:37,600 so you know we were all sort of at 1651 01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:38,880 different um 1652 01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:41,760 stages in our video editing careers we 1653 01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:42,960 want to do a lot more of this 1654 01:20:46,149 --> 01:20:44,880 but i'll say it was definitely a 1655 01:20:48,629 --> 01:20:46,159 wonderful learning experience 1656 01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,639 for me and all my colleagues for sure 1657 01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,920 definitely one of the 1658 01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:52,320 most fun parts of it and i know we all 1659 01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:53,040 um 1660 01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,600 started the formative research process 1661 01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:57,280 and you know sort of amassing 1662 01:21:01,830 --> 01:21:00,560 all our um sdsci related videos very 1663 01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:01,840 very early in the process 1664 01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,520 like i was mentioning in my piece but 1665 01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:04,960 then just putting them all together at 1666 01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:06,400 the end was 1667 01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:09,520 definitely on us and it was exciting 1668 01:21:14,629 --> 01:21:13,040 and daunting at the same time 1669 01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,639 that's that that does sound quite like 1670 01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,159 quite a challenge 1671 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:18,159 um let's see what other questions that i 1672 01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:20,560 write down oh uh sienna 1673 01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:23,440 you put out there about this idea of 1674 01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:24,880 communication across the 1675 01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,679 the generations across the centuries uh 1676 01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,679 from 1054 up through to 1677 01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:31,840 today and it just occurred to me like 1678 01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:32,800 like 1679 01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:34,639 music really does the same thing doesn't 1680 01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:35,840 it um 1681 01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:37,920 in terms of of building off of the 1682 01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:38,960 composers and 1683 01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,960 the ideas that have been been around for 1684 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:43,040 centuries um 1685 01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,080 i don't know what's your thoughts on 1686 01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:46,159 that what's the did it affect any of 1687 01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:46,800 your piece 1688 01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:50,000 and that idea yeah i totally agree and 1689 01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,159 um um i think um i mentioned that it's 1690 01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:55,920 um 1691 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:00,719 through the generation 1692 01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,000 is the the motivation of 1693 01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,560 our whole human history and i think it 1694 01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,000 concludes science and 1695 01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,080 all the music and all the humanities 1696 01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,000 everything in our lives so 1697 01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:14,800 i totally agree with that and yeah 1698 01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:15,440 that's 1699 01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:19,199 what inspired my piece yes 1700 01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,560 all right i don't want to take the 1701 01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,320 prerogative and ask all my questions 1702 01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,000 because i have about five or six more 1703 01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:26,560 so i'm gonna bring on grant justice uh 1704 01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,320 grant once you turn on your video and 1705 01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:30,000 he's been monitoring our 1706 01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:33,360 um our 1707 01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:36,560 uh quite boisterous chat tonight yeah 1708 01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:38,719 and i know you've pulled a few questions 1709 01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,760 out of there so why don't you go ahead 1710 01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:40,960 and ask one 1711 01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:43,679 yeah absolutely um i'll just go kind of 1712 01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:44,480 in order 1713 01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:47,440 uh so the first one would be for zach um 1714 01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:48,880 especially for your piece 1715 01:22:52,229 --> 01:22:51,040 do composers sometimes have specific 1716 01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:52,239 arrangements for 1717 01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:54,800 different celestial bodies different 1718 01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:57,600 types of like interstellar phenomena 1719 01:23:01,350 --> 01:23:00,320 or is there an instrument or instruments 1720 01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:01,360 that you associate 1721 01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:04,560 specifically with particular phenomena 1722 01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,679 or celestial bodies great great question 1723 01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:10,080 uh i definitely say for the former part 1724 01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,880 of it it's 1725 01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,880 very very specific to composer actually 1726 01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:14,880 the caveat is all this is super specific 1727 01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,480 to composers so i'd love to 1728 01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:18,480 hear what my esteemed colleagues think 1729 01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,080 of all this stuff as well 1730 01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:23,199 um but personally for me honestly i was 1731 01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:24,400 in the perfect medium 1732 01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:27,520 anything strings based you know 1733 01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,840 in conjunction with astronomy is kind of 1734 01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:30,880 amazing because 1735 01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,639 strings can sustain they can just 1736 01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:33,920 sustain forever they're not like 1737 01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,120 woodwind instruments that have to you 1738 01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:36,719 know take breaths they're not like piano 1739 01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:37,440 where the 1740 01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:39,760 sound decays they can sustain forever 1741 01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,040 kind of create this 1742 01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,199 wash of ethereal sound and at the same 1743 01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:44,719 time just like bergamot was talking 1744 01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:45,199 about 1745 01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:47,440 they can create um sort of sounds 1746 01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:48,960 outside the norm you know extended 1747 01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:49,840 techniques 1748 01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:52,320 otherworldly things you might not expect 1749 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,440 to hear from 1750 01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:55,760 say a conventional acoustic instrument 1751 01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:57,360 like for example um 1752 01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,719 in my piece i have this section that 1753 01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:00,880 just sort of drifts through the um 1754 01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:03,040 bubble nebula and i couldn't think of a 1755 01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:04,400 better instrument to use than 1756 01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:07,040 a string quartet maybe more strings 1757 01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,520 maybe 1758 01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:09,440 you know a string orchestra or something 1759 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:10,719 like that but strings are 1760 01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:13,840 maybe definitely yeah that would be 1761 01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,040 that would be amazing would you um 1762 01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:19,520 comment on this because you created so 1763 01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:20,719 much tension 1764 01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:23,920 in part of your piece there um and using 1765 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:24,800 the strings was just 1766 01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:28,080 like wow i i surprised you could it felt 1767 01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:29,760 like you could all you just sustained it 1768 01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:30,560 for all 1769 01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,760 for a really long time there yeah i 1770 01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:35,679 definitely agree with the point that you 1771 01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:37,440 know with strings there's so 1772 01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:40,800 so so many possibilities that you can do 1773 01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:43,600 with you know the extended sounds like 1774 01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:44,000 effects 1775 01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:47,679 that you wouldn't necessarily um hear 1776 01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:51,199 normally so with like space and 1777 01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:53,920 and especially my piece with black holes 1778 01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:54,639 right 1779 01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,320 with the heavy distortions and 1780 01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,639 that kind of effect that was i thought 1781 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:02,960 that using strings was like a 1782 01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,000 really effective way to control 1783 01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:08,480 um you know the visual effect in an 1784 01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:09,199 audio 1785 01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:12,800 way yeah okay great 1786 01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:15,280 uh grant i think we had one for daniel 1787 01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:16,000 about the 1788 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,280 the imagery yeah um we 1789 01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,880 had someone in the chat who was asking 1790 01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:22,880 about the imagery in the background of 1791 01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:25,199 daniel's performance the visuals that 1792 01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,080 you chose 1793 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:28,960 specifically about whether or not m87 1794 01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:31,360 was in there but also just to elaborate 1795 01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,800 a little bit more 1796 01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:34,960 and just as a reminder to the whole 1797 01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:36,159 group if they're any of these 1798 01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,440 questions or whatnot that you want to 1799 01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:39,600 chime in on please do there's a bunch of 1800 01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:45,510 oh that's a great question um so i guess 1801 01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:48,400 to further elaborate uh those were 1802 01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:51,760 uh visually visualizations of 1803 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:54,080 simulations that were created based on 1804 01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:55,040 data 1805 01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:58,159 um uh that was gathered of 1806 01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:01,120 the uh distribution of dark matter 1807 01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:01,760 within 1808 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,960 a specific area so i think the one that 1809 01:26:09,149 --> 01:26:06,400 was sort of very 1810 01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:09,159 um sort of like had a lot of purples and 1811 01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,679 yellowish and very warm colors was 1812 01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:12,880 actually from the 1813 01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:16,080 andromeda galaxy and uh there was a 1814 01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:18,560 there was another one that was um from 1815 01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,679 something called the millennium 1816 01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:21,520 simulation which was just a project that 1817 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:22,400 was like 1818 01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,760 um designed to uh sort of 1819 01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:28,800 take all of this data and and 1820 01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:32,000 uh sort of visualize it in a 1821 01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:35,679 more artistic way for for us to see 1822 01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:37,600 and the one that was during the uh the 1823 01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:39,679 clips of irene playing her cello solo 1824 01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:40,400 was 1825 01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,000 uh another uh 1826 01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:47,040 similar one but 1827 01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,239 that was um yeah 1828 01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:53,040 that's uh that's about the uh that's 1829 01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:54,639 about as much clarification as i could 1830 01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:54,960 give 1831 01:27:00,629 --> 01:26:58,400 off off the top of my head it's all good 1832 01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,639 um the exact same question rereading the 1833 01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,920 chat uh 1834 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,080 there was some questions about gu ways 1835 01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:05,440 visuals as well 1836 01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:06,960 if you want to continue elaborate and 1837 01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:14,229 yeah so i i think may mention 1838 01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:17,440 um you know the the use of like my 1839 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:20,800 my choice of using m87 as the um as a 1840 01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:22,080 space imagery 1841 01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:24,960 yeah so um probably reason why i chose 1842 01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:25,280 that 1843 01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:29,120 only 1844 01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:32,159 image we have now of like an actual 1845 01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,360 black hole um like the first 1846 01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:37,840 picture of a black hole completely taken 1847 01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:38,639 that was 1848 01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:42,480 probably m87 galaxy so um 1849 01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,080 because like most of my videos um like 1850 01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:48,800 the videos that i use in my keys right 1851 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:49,199 they 1852 01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:52,560 actual 1853 01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:55,600 pictures of black holes because they are 1854 01:28:03,910 --> 01:27:56,000 so 1855 01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:03,920 you know that's 1856 01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:07,040 actually taken by by um 1857 01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,400 like why it's an actual photograph 1858 01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,400 that's not like him so it's not all just 1859 01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:14,639 all visualizations 1860 01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:17,760 yeah okay great 1861 01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:20,239 um i want love to hear from some of the 1862 01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,120 artists uh 1863 01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,920 from the quartet um because uh they 1864 01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:24,719 talked about 1865 01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:27,199 sort of pushing you guys to extreme 1866 01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,000 going to these really 1867 01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,159 high notes into these really low notes 1868 01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:31,760 sort of making you improvise and such 1869 01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:32,639 and you have to 1870 01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:35,360 learn these right uh because you're 1871 01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:35,920 working with 1872 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:39,040 live with with you know not things that 1873 01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:40,639 it's not like an orchestra where you've 1874 01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:42,880 played this symphony over and over for 1875 01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,239 you know and the way you go around 1876 01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,159 various symphonies so tell us a little 1877 01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,159 bit about how hard it is to work and 1878 01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,920 learn this stuff although i'm sure it's 1879 01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:52,080 enjoyable 1880 01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:53,840 yeah i think that's that's something 1881 01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:55,760 that we really love about getting to 1882 01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:57,040 play 1883 01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:00,639 really brand new music um and 1884 01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:02,960 and kind of getting to explore a piece 1885 01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:04,719 for the first time that 1886 01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,800 that no one else has played because that 1887 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,560 means it is really 1888 01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:10,320 up to us and up to the composer to to 1889 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,400 figure out exactly what 1890 01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,880 what this does mean um and so in some 1891 01:29:20,149 --> 01:29:16,719 ways yet yes it is 1892 01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,159 um sometimes challenging and uh a 1893 01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:23,440 creative and welcomed challenge um but 1894 01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:24,080 it also 1895 01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:27,440 sometimes gives us a lot of freedom 1896 01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:28,400 that's really nice 1897 01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:32,080 and and being able to um say okay we get 1898 01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:32,480 to 1899 01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:35,679 this particular 1900 01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:38,320 new weird technique sound as good as it 1901 01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:39,199 can 1902 01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:44,629 make strange noises on our instruments 1903 01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:46,159 until we find something that really 1904 01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,639 works 1905 01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:49,120 you know um that's that's really what it 1906 01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:50,880 looks like a lot of times it's trial and 1907 01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:52,800 error um 1908 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:54,639 in and in a way that's that's what we're 1909 01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:56,320 doing with any music that that we would 1910 01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:57,040 be playing 1911 01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:58,239 that's what we're doing with mozart's 1912 01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,440 what we're doing with beethoven two 1913 01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,719 always trial and error 1914 01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,320 how can we make this sound the best that 1915 01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:04,080 we can make it sound but 1916 01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:06,239 there is an added element with this 1917 01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:07,760 really 1918 01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:10,960 like i said brand new music um 1919 01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:14,320 to to kind of take that to a different 1920 01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:16,000 level or maybe in a slightly different 1921 01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:16,800 way 1922 01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:20,239 um so i wouldn't say that it's 1923 01:30:25,430 --> 01:30:23,440 more challenging than if we were playing 1924 01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,440 older music because because everything 1925 01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:27,280 has its unique challenges but it does 1926 01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:29,360 bring kind of a different 1927 01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:31,760 um a different way of approaching it 1928 01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,520 sometimes 1929 01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:36,000 it's a great question thank you uh 1930 01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,280 anybody else from the quartet want to 1931 01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:39,280 comment on 1932 01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:42,639 yeah i um everything sarah said is super 1933 01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:45,040 true and um i just want to add that 1934 01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:46,400 a lot of the techniques that these 1935 01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:48,080 composers use we don't 1936 01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,280 learn in conservatory actually these are 1937 01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:53,440 fairly new techniques 1938 01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:56,080 um so there is a little bit of a 1939 01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:56,960 learning curve 1940 01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,520 and a lot of the times we just kind of 1941 01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:01,440 have to 1942 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:04,400 um like sarah said experiment but yeah 1943 01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:06,320 these are all very new techniques that a 1944 01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:06,800 lot of 1945 01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:10,480 conservatory um students are not really 1946 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:14,639 experimenting with and i think also just 1947 01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,040 to 1948 01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,520 piggyback on what irene said about these 1949 01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:19,440 extended techniques it's really fun for 1950 01:31:23,110 --> 01:31:19,760 us 1951 01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:23,120 being um 1952 01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:25,360 used more so in contemporary and newer 1953 01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:26,800 works as opposed to 1954 01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:29,120 older classical music but i think being 1955 01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:31,120 able to blend these like 1956 01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:34,080 newer um less orthodox sounds is also 1957 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,560 like 1958 01:31:38,070 --> 01:31:36,400 a really fun process for us because we 1959 01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:38,080 can get to be really creative with like 1960 01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:38,560 how 1961 01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:40,639 all these sounds can actually be made 1962 01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:42,080 with just our instruments they're the 1963 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,280 same instruments that were 1964 01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:45,520 being used 200 years ago as right now 1965 01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:46,800 and um 1966 01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:48,639 and it can just do so much more and i 1967 01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:50,719 think i hope that composers are still 1968 01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:51,520 discovering 1969 01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:53,520 hopefully new ways of using it let us 1970 01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:55,120 know if you do um but 1971 01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:57,520 yeah it's a really um exciting process 1972 01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:58,800 for us 1973 01:32:03,110 --> 01:32:00,560 well i have to say that you know there 1974 01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:03,120 is a mindset of what a string quartet 1975 01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:05,040 is and you guys have really expanded 1976 01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:07,040 that here tonight 1977 01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:10,960 uh yeah i actually have some 1978 01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:14,000 expansion on the last couple points um 1979 01:32:19,470 --> 01:32:16,880 for the quartet specifically uh there's 1980 01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:19,480 obviously a lot of 1981 01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:22,400 improvisation and ambiance that's being 1982 01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:23,760 created by the instruments like you just 1983 01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:24,320 mentioned 1984 01:32:29,189 --> 01:32:27,760 in not necessarily i would say unusual 1985 01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:29,199 but 1986 01:32:32,470 --> 01:32:30,719 ways that you would not particularly 1987 01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:32,480 expect in a piece like this that's used 1988 01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:33,040 to create 1989 01:32:37,830 --> 01:32:36,560 sort of this atmosphere so in that sort 1990 01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,840 of improvisation 1991 01:32:41,110 --> 01:32:40,080 do you find it easier to just be given a 1992 01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:41,120 key and go 1993 01:32:44,790 --> 01:32:44,000 find it or do you like the boxes that 1994 01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:44,800 were mentioned 1995 01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:47,520 as far as like a loose guideline and 1996 01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:48,880 from there you 1997 01:32:52,149 --> 01:32:50,960 can you know noodle your way into the 1998 01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:52,159 atmosphere 1999 01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:55,199 of where you want to be and continuing 2000 01:32:58,310 --> 01:32:56,960 on that i'm sorry this is a long one i'm 2001 01:33:01,350 --> 01:32:58,320 combining two 2002 01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,360 um more specifically for the composers 2003 01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:03,360 once they have talked about the act of 2004 01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:04,560 doing so 2005 01:33:08,350 --> 01:33:05,840 what was it you were trying to 2006 01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:08,360 demonstrate with the 2007 01:33:14,229 --> 01:33:11,520 discordancy and the off tempo and 2008 01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:14,239 the the seeming to at least the audience 2009 01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:15,679 online a little more 2010 01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:19,040 random in avant-garde pieces or choices 2011 01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:22,400 that have been made 2012 01:33:25,990 --> 01:33:24,000 who wants to who from the quartet wants 2013 01:33:28,310 --> 01:33:26,000 to handle the first part of that 2014 01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:28,320 sorry for the giant question of doom 2015 01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:29,920 yeah that's a great question 2016 01:33:34,149 --> 01:33:32,000 um i think what we've found the four of 2017 01:33:36,470 --> 01:33:34,159 us is that 2018 01:33:38,310 --> 01:33:36,480 when we have less specific music in 2019 01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:38,320 front of us 2020 01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:40,480 the most useful thing for us to know and 2021 01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:41,920 the most exciting thing for us to know 2022 01:33:44,790 --> 01:33:42,239 is 2023 01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:44,800 what the composer wants us to be evoking 2024 01:33:48,830 --> 01:33:45,679 and there's of course 2025 01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:48,840 a number of ways that that can be um 2026 01:33:52,629 --> 01:33:50,239 communicated 2027 01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:52,639 um often just like plain english works 2028 01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:53,360 the best 2029 01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:54,960 like it's great to know if we see kind 2030 01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:56,639 of like some 2031 01:34:01,110 --> 01:33:59,520 some visual information to know that the 2032 01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:01,120 composer wants us to be 2033 01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:04,159 evoking something ethereal and 2034 01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:07,280 gauzy or something tense and nervous 2035 01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:10,400 or um or a particular nebula that's 2036 01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:12,080 being born or 2037 01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:14,480 um just kind of knowing what the goal is 2038 01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:16,159 we know our instruments really well and 2039 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:17,520 we're still learning more about them 2040 01:34:19,990 --> 01:34:18,400 every day 2041 01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:20,000 kind of as amy and erin are talking 2042 01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:21,040 about in collaboration with the 2043 01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:22,159 composers we work with 2044 01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:24,239 um who have ideas that we would never 2045 01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:26,000 have because they're like maybe 2046 01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,960 a little bit removed from the 2047 01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:28,560 instruments and kind of can open their 2048 01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:29,520 minds more 2049 01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:32,560 um but 2050 01:34:38,470 --> 01:34:36,560 we we love to be able to um 2051 01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:38,480 kind of be pushed to to really make the 2052 01:34:43,830 --> 01:34:40,719 most of our instruments and create 2053 01:34:47,510 --> 01:34:43,840 sounds that will evoke the 2054 01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:47,520 emotion or seeming question and 2055 01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:50,639 i think typically that isn't necessarily 2056 01:34:53,510 --> 01:34:52,239 achieved the best by just like giving us 2057 01:34:56,950 --> 01:34:53,520 a key or that kind of 2058 01:34:58,550 --> 01:34:56,960 framework um i think really what a lot 2059 01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,560 of these composers have done with this 2060 01:35:05,109 --> 01:35:00,880 particular music is to kind of 2061 01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:05,119 go away from tonality a little bit um 2062 01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:07,199 like i think probably the the piece by 2063 01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:09,760 gouay had the most audible key center 2064 01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:11,840 but some crazy stuff happened to that 2065 01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,800 key 2066 01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:15,440 as you heard um so yeah that's a great 2067 01:35:19,350 --> 01:35:17,360 question i'll let one of the composers 2068 01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,360 maybe talk about the rest of it all 2069 01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:20,880 right yeah so which composer would like 2070 01:35:24,310 --> 01:35:21,920 to talk about how you're 2071 01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:24,320 challenging yeah i can take that 2072 01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:25,040 question 2073 01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:26,960 for instance because i i really like the 2074 01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:28,400 question and because i really like the 2075 01:35:33,109 --> 01:35:29,760 subject matter 2076 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,119 um here i'll tackle a bit of it too 2077 01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:36,480 yeah yeah um so yeah i guess for me the 2078 01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,840 question 2079 01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,440 had to do with like why what were we 2080 01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,520 trying to do when i just composes why 2081 01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:43,280 were we playing around with sounds 2082 01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:44,560 that could be stopped perceived as like 2083 01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:46,239 barely even music right just like super 2084 01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:47,920 vicious very nasty sounds and all that 2085 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:49,040 combined with 2086 01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,480 um well yeah so i think for myself um 2087 01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:54,400 when i think about stars at least i i 2088 01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,840 tend to think of like this very 2089 01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:57,840 grandiose romantic kind of image of like 2090 01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:58,560 you know 2091 01:36:01,669 --> 01:36:00,480 celestial almost religious kind of 2092 01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:01,679 quality to them 2093 01:36:04,629 --> 01:36:03,280 um but at the same time like from a 2094 01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:04,639 scientific standpoint like stars are 2095 01:36:06,790 --> 01:36:06,000 like really horrifying and you wouldn't 2096 01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:06,800 actually want to be 2097 01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:09,520 near one or like even at any point like 2098 01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:10,320 remotely 2099 01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:12,000 close to one and like right because it's 2100 01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:13,520 just it's just like super super violent 2101 01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:14,800 in that and like they 2102 01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:16,719 you know i forget how hot they get they 2103 01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,000 get very hot 2104 01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:20,159 and so that whole idea of like really 2105 01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:21,040 nasty and 2106 01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:22,960 um just or just dark and violent 2107 01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:24,400 behavior of stars 2108 01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:26,639 um for myself was like explosions 2109 01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:28,000 explosions certain things 2110 01:36:31,590 --> 01:36:30,000 explosions exactly it was basically what 2111 01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:31,600 i was trying to do at least in my 2112 01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:32,880 particular piece you know 2113 01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:35,040 sort of going between this really 2114 01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:36,400 religious really beautiful sort of 2115 01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:38,400 portion of stars and this very 2116 01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,560 i think like zoomed in kind of up close 2117 01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:42,159 and personal fortune of stars 2118 01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:45,360 that are this very sort of um i don't 2119 01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:45,679 know 2120 01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:48,239 violent kind of uh yeah in this violent 2121 01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:49,600 kind of fashion right 2122 01:36:53,669 --> 01:36:51,119 now yeah i'll let zach take over from 2123 01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:53,679 here 2124 01:36:57,750 --> 01:36:56,400 no i absolutely second all of that um 2125 01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:57,760 i'll just add just a 2126 01:37:01,910 --> 01:37:00,159 touch in terms of sort of the alien 2127 01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:01,920 torque or indeterminate notation we were 2128 01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:03,760 using i know bobby and i used a lot of 2129 01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:06,480 boxes and stuff like that and personally 2130 01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:07,119 i found 2131 01:37:10,709 --> 01:37:08,880 especially when working with such 2132 01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:10,719 amazing musicians as we had the 2133 01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:13,520 privilege to work with that um giving a 2134 01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:15,280 dose of freedom to the performers 2135 01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:16,800 actually creates 2136 01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,800 a lot of confidence because you don't 2137 01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:20,880 have to be so insanely specific about 2138 01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:22,000 everything like oh this note has to 2139 01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:24,080 happen exactly here because honestly 2140 01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:25,440 if you're going for a specific effect 2141 01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:27,040 like you're going for this kind of you 2142 01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,840 know 2143 01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:29,920 nebulous maybe perhaps slightly 2144 01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:31,119 frightening sound 2145 01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,440 here and there um everything doesn't 2146 01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:35,199 have to be notated to a t 2147 01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:37,360 and it's almost better to hand it over 2148 01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:38,800 to such 2149 01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:40,560 absolutely brilliant musicians and let 2150 01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,639 them take it from there 2151 01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:44,000 the other thing about all this box 2152 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:45,600 notation and whatnot is it could seem 2153 01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:46,560 like this sort of 2154 01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:48,320 esoteric thing that you know happens in 2155 01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,000 the new music academy or whatever 2156 01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:52,239 but it's also applicable across a wide 2157 01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:53,760 spectrum of things i've looked at 2158 01:37:57,430 --> 01:37:55,520 lots of film scores that employ this 2159 01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,440 kind of these devices actually 2160 01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:59,600 all over the place so it's fun to think 2161 01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:01,040 about that in sort of its 2162 01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,760 broader implications overall that was 2163 01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:05,280 one of the words that came up in the 2164 01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:05,760 chat 2165 01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:07,520 as we were talking back and forth is 2166 01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,480 atmosphere this is intended to create an 2167 01:38:13,669 --> 01:38:12,159 effect it's intended to bring you a 2168 01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:13,679 place or at least that's the sense that 2169 01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:15,199 i got from it and i wanted you guys to 2170 01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:16,000 be able to elaborate 2171 01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:17,520 a little more on the intent and the 2172 01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:19,840 emotion behind that's very much what i 2173 01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:21,040 went with on my piece 2174 01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,679 i'll turn it over to someone else 2175 01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:25,119 anybody else want to 2176 01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:27,360 make a comment on it i mean uh so yoona 2177 01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:29,040 you talked about the last breath 2178 01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:32,080 of uh the crab nebu uh the star that 2179 01:38:35,350 --> 01:38:33,600 became the crab nebula 2180 01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:35,360 i thought that was an incredibly poetic 2181 01:38:47,109 --> 01:38:44,310 oh thank you yeah i really liked um 2182 01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:47,119 that part so even though that is the 2183 01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:48,639 last part of the 2184 01:38:52,310 --> 01:38:51,280 of my piece i wrote it um at the 2185 01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,320 beginning 2186 01:38:55,830 --> 01:38:54,960 that was the first part that i wrote for 2187 01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:55,840 this piece 2188 01:39:01,830 --> 01:38:59,119 because i really like that concept 2189 01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,840 um when i was writing that i was 2190 01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:03,119 imagining 2191 01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:06,639 just a lone star that is in the universe 2192 01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:06,880 and 2193 01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,239 no one is around that around 2194 01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:14,000 it and it's like 6 000 light years away 2195 01:39:17,910 --> 01:39:14,639 from us 2196 01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:17,920 it's so far and it's so isolated and i 2197 01:39:20,470 --> 01:39:18,480 was just 2198 01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:20,480 imagining how the star would feel by 2199 01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:22,320 itself like 2200 01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:25,280 and then i read it so yeah i guess 2201 01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,080 that's 2202 01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:28,800 very atmospheric and we just need to 2203 01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:34,790 all right i think we could go for one 2204 01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,360 more question if we've got it uh grant 2205 01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:39,920 do we have one more or we can finish up 2206 01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:40,719 here 2207 01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:43,040 uh i combined my questions into that 2208 01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:44,239 giant doom 2209 01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:48,000 ah okay great all right uh any 2210 01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:50,480 of the composers or the performers have 2211 01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:51,040 anything 2212 01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:53,920 any last comments they want to say um 2213 01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:54,400 it's 2214 01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:57,360 been an amazing performance here tonight 2215 01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:57,920 uh 2216 01:40:01,189 --> 01:40:00,719 usually we have in our chat people 2217 01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:01,199 saying 2218 01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:03,119 hello from australia hello from germany 2219 01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:05,280 hello from you know california texas 2220 01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:06,960 tennessee whatever 2221 01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,719 what's i think is really cool tonight is 2222 01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:10,880 that our performers all of us are coming 2223 01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,360 from 2224 01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:13,360 different places yes i'm in baltimore 2225 01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:14,880 grants in baltimore 2226 01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:18,400 um but some of you are in new york right 2227 01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:20,320 uh some of you are somebody in 2228 01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:22,000 california if i remember 2229 01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:25,280 um and uh goo you're in singapore's in 2230 01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:26,960 singapore along with one other 2231 01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:30,080 so thank you for taking uh getting up 2232 01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:33,440 way early to come and join us for this 2233 01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:36,719 uh we have a really a multicultural and 2234 01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:39,679 around the world collaboration here 2235 01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:42,080 thank you all so very much for this i 2236 01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:43,600 have to say to my audience 2237 01:40:49,910 --> 01:40:46,960 that june 1st emily rickman 2238 01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:49,920 how to hunt for distant world we will be 2239 01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:51,280 back in a month 2240 01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:53,040 won't have this many speakers but we'll 2241 01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:54,560 still have a great talk for you